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I have to admit that I was a bit hesitant when Patricia came up with the idea to go
to Vietnam on the “leisure-loop” of our South-East Asia trip. The country is, of course,
still controlled by a socialist party and is even still “Socialist Republic”, and
I really knew very little about Vietnam except for the horrible historic events of
the 1960s and 1970s. Of course I was absolutely wrong being concerned about our safety
and Ho Chi Minh City isn’t socialistically dull and boring, at all. In fact, it’s
great fun!
</p>
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            <img height="244" alt="Dung" hspace="12" src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image001123.png" width="131" align="right" />
            <img height="248" alt="Tuang" hspace="12" src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image002.jpg" width="199" align="right" />We
met Dung (right) and Tuang (on the left) at a street corner where they asked us whether
we wanted to take a tour on their bike-carts. One hour per person for $3 US. Although
Vietnam does of course have a proper local currency (the exchange rate is about 15,500.00
VND for 1 USD), everything can be paid for in U.S. Dollars and that’s actually the
preferred way of payment. In fact, $3 USD/hr is relatively expensive already considering
that locals can get a full meal for less than 30 cents and that you can buy 2.5 liters
of (surprisingly good) local draught beer for about 30,000 VND if you (a) find the
right place and (b) have local people with you as we did.
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However … Dung and Tuang’s services are easily worth their money. They are very friendly
(it seems like any other Vietnamese person you could meet in the streets of HCMC is
like that), they speak OK-enough English for a conversation and for them to explain
a couple of things here and there and of course they know the places to go. But their
most amazing skill is navigating through the traffic chaos of Ho Chi Minh City. In
“HCMC”, you see a couple of cars here and there, but the streets are dominated by
thousands of quadrillion-bazillons of small motorbikes. And of course, nobody pays
any close attention to traffic rules (if there are any), but mysteriously, it just
works. Even if you go with a slow bike-cart against a one-way street smack in the
middle of the road, the traffic flows magically around you and you never get a feeling
of being in danger. The secret seems to be that everyone drives very slowly and everyone
seems very alert. I would think that the average speed in traffic is about 25-30 km/h.
Dung and Tuang took us around for about 6 hours for the money equivalent of 3 rollercoaster-rides
at the “Kirmes” in Düsseldorf complete with the entire thrill but a lot more fun.
</p>
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            <img height="140" hspace="11" src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image003.jpg" width="331" align="left" vspace="11" />What
becomes very apparent even as you approach the city-center from the airport is that
all that seems left of the “Socialist Republic” are the occasional paroles on street
posters, but otherwise the market rules. We were told that it’s very different outside
the two big cities Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi and that the agricultural collectives
are still the common organization of work there, but there’s no trace of what I think
is a “Socialist Republic”, of course having East Germany in mind as an example. Quite
to the contrary, Saigon (you will find the old name used much more frequently than
“Ho Chi Minh City”; “Sai Gon” is in fact the name of the central 1<sup>st</sup> district)
is a very colorful and vibrant city with a lot of very visible entrepreneurial spirit. 
</p>
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While it seems to be a fun place to be (I spoke to an English guy who went there for
a three day trip, went home, quit his job and is now there for 9 months already),
don’t expect too much great sightseeing experiences. There are a couple of things
to see, but nothing too spectacular. “The War Remnants Museum” on the premises of
the old U.S. embassy (from which the last U.S. troops were evacuated by swarms of
helicopters), <img height="200" hspace="12" src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image004.png" width="266" align="right" />shows
a couple of U.S. weapons that were left behind, including the obvious Huey Chopper,
an F-5 fighter, a couple of tanks and all sorts of short range missiles. The most
horrible two weapons on display are two “daisy cutters” – 7 ton fuel-bombs that annihilate
all life within a 500m radius of their point of detonation. The most horrible pictures
on display in the adjacent exhibitions halls are those that illustrate the short and
long-term effects of the infamous “Agent Orange” on people. Interestingly enough,
the rest of the exhibition – except some obvious propaganda in a hall illustrating
the support of the world for Vietnam in the times of war – is mostly from U.S. publication
sources and photographers, which gives the exhibition some (strange) balance. The
entrance fee is 10,000 VND per person.
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Otherwise, Saigon is a very interesting and friendly place to explore if you have
two or three days while in South East Asia. The Vietnamese people have long understood
what the Dollar and Euros are not only worth to them but also to you so don’t expect
it to be very cheap. Saigon seems more expensive than, for instance, Bangkok and is
much less developed at the same time. However, just from feeling much less “westernized”
than any of the other Asian cities that I’ve been to, it draws its appeal.
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      <title>Ho!Ho!Ho Chi Minh! ... City. The market reigns under the red flag.</title>
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&lt;p class=MsoBodyText&gt;
I have to admit that I was a bit hesitant when Patricia came up with the idea to go
to Vietnam on the “leisure-loop” of our South-East Asia trip. The country is, of course,
still controlled by a socialist party and is even still “Socialist Republic”, and
I really knew very little about Vietnam except for the horrible historic events of
the 1960s and 1970s. Of course I was absolutely wrong being concerned about our safety
and Ho Chi Minh City isn’t socialistically dull and boring, at all. In fact, it’s
great fun!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=MsoBodyText&gt;
&lt;img height=244 alt=Dung hspace=12 src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image001123.png" width=131 align=right&gt;&lt;img height=248 alt=Tuang hspace=12 src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image002.jpg" width=199 align=right&gt;We
met Dung (right) and Tuang (on the left) at a street corner where they asked us whether
we wanted to take a tour on their bike-carts. One hour per person for $3 US. Although
Vietnam does of course have a proper local currency (the exchange rate is about 15,500.00
VND for 1 USD), everything can be paid for in U.S. Dollars and that’s actually the
preferred way of payment. In fact, $3 USD/hr is relatively expensive already considering
that locals can get a full meal for less than 30 cents and that you can buy 2.5 liters
of (surprisingly good) local draught beer for about 30,000 VND if you (a) find the
right place and (b) have local people with you as we did.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=MsoBodyText&gt;
However … Dung and Tuang’s services are easily worth their money. They are very friendly
(it seems like any other Vietnamese person you could meet in the streets of HCMC is
like that), they speak OK-enough English for a conversation and for them to explain
a couple of things here and there and of course they know the places to go. But their
most amazing skill is navigating through the traffic chaos of Ho Chi Minh City. In
“HCMC”, you see a couple of cars here and there, but the streets are dominated by
thousands of quadrillion-bazillons of small motorbikes. And of course, nobody pays
any close attention to traffic rules (if there are any), but mysteriously, it just
works. Even if you go with a slow bike-cart against a one-way street smack in the
middle of the road, the traffic flows magically around you and you never get a feeling
of being in danger. The secret seems to be that everyone drives very slowly and everyone
seems very alert. I would think that the average speed in traffic is about 25-30 km/h.
Dung and Tuang took us around for about 6 hours for the money equivalent of 3 rollercoaster-rides
at the “Kirmes” in Düsseldorf complete with the entire thrill but a lot more fun.
&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;img height=140 hspace=11 src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image003.jpg" width=331 align=left vspace=11&gt;What
becomes very apparent even as you approach the city-center from the airport is that
all that seems left of the “Socialist Republic” are the occasional paroles on street
posters, but otherwise the market rules. We were told that it’s very different outside
the two big cities Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi and that the agricultural collectives
are still the common organization of work there, but there’s no trace of what I think
is a “Socialist Republic”, of course having East Germany in mind as an example. Quite
to the contrary, Saigon (you will find the old name used much more frequently than
“Ho Chi Minh City”; “Sai Gon” is in fact the name of the central 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; district)
is a very colorful and vibrant city with a lot of very visible entrepreneurial spirit. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=MsoBodyText&gt;
While it seems to be a fun place to be (I spoke to an English guy who went there for
a three day trip, went home, quit his job and is now there for 9 months already),
don’t expect too much great sightseeing experiences. There are a couple of things
to see, but nothing too spectacular. “The War Remnants Museum” on the premises of
the old U.S. embassy (from which the last U.S. troops were evacuated by swarms of
helicopters), &lt;img height=200 hspace=12 src="http://staff.newtelligence.net/clemensv/content/binary/image004.png" width=266 align=right&gt;shows
a couple of U.S. weapons that were left behind, including the obvious Huey Chopper,
an F-5 fighter, a couple of tanks and all sorts of short range missiles. The most
horrible two weapons on display are two “daisy cutters” – 7 ton fuel-bombs that annihilate
all life within a 500m radius of their point of detonation. The most horrible pictures
on display in the adjacent exhibitions halls are those that illustrate the short and
long-term effects of the infamous “Agent Orange” on people. Interestingly enough,
the rest of the exhibition – except some obvious propaganda in a hall illustrating
the support of the world for Vietnam in the times of war – is mostly from U.S. publication
sources and photographers, which gives the exhibition some (strange) balance. The
entrance fee is 10,000 VND per person.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=MsoBodyText&gt;
Otherwise, Saigon is a very interesting and friendly place to explore if you have
two or three days while in South East Asia. The Vietnamese people have long understood
what the Dollar and Euros are not only worth to them but also to you so don’t expect
it to be very cheap. Saigon seems more expensive than, for instance, Bangkok and is
much less developed at the same time. However, just from feeling much less “westernized”
than any of the other Asian cities that I’ve been to, it draws its appeal.
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